Edgar ~ the fish

[purplemikey]

Edgar

Edgar is a fish that lived alone for his whole life... before today =o
The Dentist, where he's living, get a new fish and put the fish tank on an other desk. But even if there's few meters between those two, Edgar is really happy to have someone to look at
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3764/fishk.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/fishk.jpg/)
Ill be working on the textures of the fish... and then ill model the office (the background)

[DjVoyager]

Edgar looks like he's been living in the dark too long :)

[ckpepper02]

Yeah that's true!! He looks like a DEEP water fish. Like pre-historic or something. Very cool!

[mariamarga]

What kind of texture will you use? Do you want a cartoon look ?

[purplemikey]

it will be a cartoon look yeah =)
Ill use photoshop textures, hand painted textures
And I will had a scene behind don't worry =) it won't be that dark
but thats the effect I wanted to give (prehistoric fish)
Glad you like it =)

I haven't been able to work on it since october... stuck in my homeworks... but soon as I have 10minutes ill work hard on Edgar!

[purplemikey]

I think I need some Zbrush tips =\
I tried to paint on my model but it goes all black... no colors works
I tried to go in the texture tools and set to colorise, click on RGB, unclick ZADD and paint... but it doesnt work

anyone knows why?


*edit*
finaly got it... but I don't know how to take my textures from Zbrush and bumps... and send it to maya

[Fusedgore]

in zbrush fill the model with a color ,then select a color you want to paint on top of the color you filled the oject with .

[purplemikey]

Yeah I found how to paint on
but not to export my textures to maya thats the problem lol
cuz my fish is nicely textured... in Zbrush... but I can't export my textures and the model is too hi-res to be exported it self in maya...

[atomic]

hey purplemikey

I also had alot of problems when I tried to export my textures and stuff. But that may be because I used a matcap material.
I found for me the best way to export the textures is: (1. if it isn't UV mapped yet). 1.first UV map it using 'the GUVTiles' (Textures>GUVTiles) while your object is in the right resolution version for exporting. and then export the model. And then 2. go back to your highest resolution and convert your colour to texture (Texture>Col>Txr), so you can export your texture. (You might need to flip it, depending on your application). This didn't worked like I wanted with me (alltough I got out the textures succesfully,... colour and material differences), but I might work for you.

Greets,
Atomic

[purplemikey]

thanks for the help =)
but it doesnt work =\ when I apply the textures to my model in maya my model become transparent and no textures appear in my render...

[atomic]

Can you perhaps post some screens showing your exporting and importing process? or a short screen capture
If you want I can try to put it in maya and send it back to you, if you send the .ztl.

[purplemikey]

before getting into bed last night I didi a little scene for halloween! hope you like it! (not in the contest but I don't want to start a thread for a picture)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4990/treeman.png (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/treeman.png/) http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/treeman.png/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img15/treeman.png/1/)

[purplemikey]

well do you have msn? so I could send you the files
It would be really helpful to me cuz its the only thing that I need to do about my model.

thank you so much

[atomic]

My msn adress is on my profile

[purplemikey]

I will post an update tonight of Edgar.
I want to thanks Atomic and Fusedgore without you I couldn't had done that
Thank you.
So Edgar is done, I will model the "aquarium" and the background soon as possible.
I want to say that I don't have a lot of spare time but I take few minutes since 2-3days to stay in the contest I only took a day to model, 3days to find how textures works with Zbrush and export it and I hope ill take less then a week to do the aquarium and the environment in the scene. So my model will be over next week =)

[purplemikey]

So here's Edgar
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1567/fishpz.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/fishpz.jpg/) http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/fishpz.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img35/fishpz.jpg/1/)

and here's my new problem =)
can't touch Edgar cuz I get that error message when I click on it...
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8357/30823816.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/30823816.jpg/) http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/30823816.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img190/30823816.jpg/1/)

do you know why?

[purplemikey]

thanks I just reseted my preference and loaded the OBJ files that I saved before (YAAAAAH!) and start the project in a new folder =)
I also took time to work around his teeth

[purplemikey]

Fish textures : changed
Model added : New fish, New environment

Render : IM NOW RENDERING =D
think its gonna be the final version but Im not 100% sure.
Photoshop : I will do the titles in photoshop "Edgar, a piranha smile"

for the moment you can look at that picture I did after modeling the second fish =)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/540/edgarpirhana.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/edgarpirhana.jpg/)

[purplemikey]

here's my final scene

I wanted to do a cartoon look but a clean look (thats why my textures are not too kiddish and not realistic)
I wanted to avoid using bumps for the fish or displacement because it makes the fish looks too real for a cartoon (I think)
and I had a lot of pleasure modeling and texturing these fish = )
it was a nightmare at first to texture them in Zbrush and export my textures but now I got it. Thanks!

here's the picture and the story



Edgar
Piranha smile
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8541/finalscene.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/finalscene.jpg/)


Edgar is a smart piranha living in the sea, searching for food... like every other piranha! But after few weeks his friends left him alone while he was sleeping. I have to say that Edgar is a sleep lover, he can sleep for days! Since he's alone he can't fight the big fish and even the smaller fish that stays in group. So when he found his first meet since few days, he had a big smile! Cuz the fish was alone and ready to be eaten!




hope you like it!

[DjVoyager]

That came out really well, even the texture on the little fish are nice.

Have to say though, I thought Edgar was happy because he found a friend out in the sea, since piranhas are fresh water fish. ;)

[purplemikey]

lol maybe ill work a bit on the story ill do my job to get a better story ;)
cuz I had to create the story really fast

But I have to admit that I didn't knew that piranha were fresh water fish...
The little fish have a really cool texture but I don't know if you can see all the details on him since the angle didn't show is "side view"

[purplemikey]

yeah I want bubbles too lol
Just wanted to wait to see if people think like I do cuz with bubbles it was kind of weird cuz it was like if I wanted to fill the space with something...
but Ill try to do it better =)

*edit*
Just to let you know

I will post a version with wires of both fish, a separated render of both fish, a story for both fish, a new rendered picture that will be final.

I also want to say to all the people who are interested in my project that your comments have been helpful and can still be helpful to me.
Thanks for the good comments and if you did bad comments about my Art I will push you in a pool full of piranha.
Joke! I won't! these critiques are the most useful to me.

If you have any questions, any tips, any idea just tell it to me.
If you want me to comment your art you can also ask me to cuz I really like to!

You guys are all really brave to accomplish such works within your works, family and everything that happens in the world of 3D (maya crash for example.. that happens too much time!)

This is my first complete art in a contest and the only thing I've modeled in the past months (except for my "gladiator" that is not finish yet)

I hope you will like my idea im currently working on (1am) and I will wake up in few hours (6am) to get to school... But DT made of me an addict of perfection and computer arts!
So soon as I get my last render I will start positioning my characters for their photoshoot! Hope you'll like the concept guys.

I had a lot of fun in that project and thats what I aimed for! FUN is what you should get in these contest =) not competition!

and a special word to Atomic who helped me a lot and FusedGore. Who did awesome arts that you should look at =)


Good luck to every one who enter in that contest. I will post my final work soon as possible but im not sure if it will be tonight cuz I have a lot of preparation to do!


*edit 2*
oops... can't sleep... ill update my project tonight finaly!

[purplemikey]

Edgar
A smiling Piranha


. Edgar took a swim (walk) across the streets in a town nearby his home. Chased by his family when he was young because he wanted to be vegetarian, Edgar tries to make some friends. But the others are not like he would. They scream “HIDE OR SCREAM” every time that Edgar is next to them.

. The cities around already had many troubles with Piranhas before. They come when the babies born and eat them. That’s an easy prey for baby Piranhas.
So Edgar took a walk in the streets, looking down and depressed. Everything went on the opposite of what he planned. But this day, something unusual happened. A fish walked next to him and said “hello Mr. P”. Edgar was looking around for a Mr. P when he realised that he was Mr. P…. Mr. Piranha! So he started to talk with the little fish. She had wonderful colors like no one he had ever seen before.

. The village now take Edgar for a hero because he never stopped the conversation with Delma the wonderful fish. She was talking all day long with everybody before Edgar met her. Now Friends are together, holding each other’s fin.


Here's some souvenir they gave us for the Fish city Magazine:


Edgar and Delma when they first met. Edgar was happy to meet her.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9206/fishscene3.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/fishscene3.jpg/) http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/fishscene3.jpg/1/w1600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img196/fishscene3.jpg/1/)

Edgar's citizen card:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2043/edgarofficialfishcitydo.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/edgarofficialfishcitydo.jpg/) http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/edgarofficialfishcitydo.jpg/1/w900.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img19/edgarofficialfishcitydo.jpg/1/)

Delma's citizen card:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/627/delmaofficialfishcitydo.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/delmaofficialfishcitydo.jpg/) http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/delmaofficialfishcitydo.jpg/1/w900.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img198/delmaofficialfishcitydo.jpg/1/)

[DjVoyager]

lol, that is hilarious! Delma seems more threatening than Edgar :D

[purplemikey]

lol well she's the kind of fish that can't stop talking and she is "innocent" so thats why she talked with the Piranha =P
Edgar is a lonely fish that don't want to bite so he's the opposite of a Pîranha

[atomic]

Great job purplemikey, really like how it turned out. Cool story too :D
btw funny information cards, "Official Fish City Document", "103 Shrimp" :P.

[purplemikey]

hehe thank you Atomic =)

[purplemikey]

I think one important thing in a 3D modeling contest is the making of, even on a simple 3D still image for fun.
So here's my making of:



Sorry for Delma I don't have the low res I lost the file when I had problems with Maya...
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4655/makingofk.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/makingofk.jpg/)

[mariamarga]

A very funny and creative work.

[purplemikey]

thank you MariaMarga =)
glad you like it!

[Dule]

Haha, thats hilarious. You really should animate the story when you find the time.. would be great!! :dance

The actual models are great too :smile:

[purplemikey]

hey thank you so much =)
ill try to animate them and find a good narrator

for the moment im really busy but maybe after the nov contest and school =)